One of the World’s Greatest Puzzles Solved!

Over the last five years I have read close to 100 books plus other literary and research material regarding the history of the Superstition Mountains and its many inhabitants and visitors. My research has gone back as far as the “Hohokam” (l-CE to 1450), a mysterious and little-known group of ancient Indians. Many scholars believe there is link between the Hohokam and the Aztec culture that predates Montezuma’s era in central Mexico. I have thoughts on this that I will share later.

Much of my research on the Superstition Mountains and its history, however, has been on the time of Spanish Conquest and New Spain, tracing those and related events forward up into the early 20th century.

The majority of my research has been focused on Jacob Waltz and the history surrounding his story as it relates the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine. Because of the sheer volume of this information I will first address some of the clues accredited to him and connect that information with what we have found at our land-site. I have been surprised at the volume of the historical information pertaining to the LDGM, and the extent of applicatory information that many of these clues have contained within them, that directly matches our land-site. This was totally unanticipated.

Again, a shock!

I expected some things would fit but that a lot would be misinformation from all the years of hash and rehash.  However surprising this was, the fact remains that many of the most discussed clues are not only true but accurate, which in many cases validates their source.   After five years of research and four expeditions, Arcana Exploration has not only found the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine, but has been able to match the most accepted clues with the physical evidence on the ground.  The enigma of the LDGM is that it has been a puzzle with many pieces that, up until now, no one has been able to solve. Arcana Exploration has done this; keep in mind that we continue to find new things that match. Part of the reason for this is that the topography immediately surrounding the mine is so severe and dangerous that it can take days to explore short distances. As we reach these adjacent plateaued spaces we continue to search for additional onsite entities that are of interest.

Another issue is that researching historical information has been very fruitful, so we continue to put efforts in this area and are often surprised and rewarded by what we learn that is relevant to our discovery.

I repeat:

It has always been known that just finding a mine of any type would mean little if it could not be linked to at least a couple dozen of clues. That has now been done, and we are continuing to fit more puzzle pieces together.

So, what exactly does this mean?  First off, there was never going to be a sign that says, “Welcome to the Lost Mine—Property of Jacob Waltz”. If you find the mine, what should be there? What should be there are physical features, some man-made and some natural, that match the most historical and generally accepted clues. No one has found, or at least shared, any viable proof that matches the man-made or natural clues. Until now, that is.

After searching for five years and reading most of the published material, the last paragraph in one book keeps haunting me. The author wrote that he believed the mine was real…BUT! (and this is most important!), there was in fact some “QUIRKY REASON”, a natural fluke why it had not been found, and that someday, someone would figure that out and match the pieces(clues) together and prove that the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine is not just a myth, but that it exists.

There are many who believe that after a 135+ years that if it exists, it would have been found by now and that the LDGM is nothing more than a fairy tale or that it already has been found and is near the old Goldfield mine. In fact, none of clues match the Goldfield location.  Yes, gold quartz matrix is there, but the Goldfield samples have been tested against known Dutchman samples, and it’s inorganic (think of it as sort of DNA) metallurgical characteristics or their fingerprints if you will, do not match. One of the forms for this testing is Laser ablation with a mass Spectrometer. Testing today is much more accurate than the last time the Dutchman gold samples were lab tested.

This type of testing is something we will be doing. At that time, we will need permission to retest the Dutchman’s gold, but this is not as easy as you might think. There are only a few known samples of Dutchman gold and as you would imagine, the owners who are in possession of these priceless pieces might have reasons for not wanting it tested. We believe when the time is right that the overwhelming body of proof that we have will encourage one of these safe-keepers to let a metallurgical comparison be made. We will welcome it.

I am getting a little ahead of myself, so back to the reason the LDGM has not until now been found. YES! YES! And YES! THERE ARE IN FACT FORTUITOUS CIRCUMSTANCES, of the natural kind, that have assisted Mother Nature in keeping some of the most important clues from being matched to any boots on the ground.

Hopefully after our fifth trip we will be at liberty to share more of the connected clues that we have. For now, we will share some meaningful images, but for security reasons we cannot show everything that we have. What we can share for now is some documentation that will not give away mine’s location, or that is not proprietary to our book.

So, what are the clues?  There are literally hundreds upon hundreds of clues, from countless sources. The clues that are most generally accepted by Dutchman scholars are a good place to start, and it will make the most sense to start with the clues that pertain more directly with Jacob Waltz. These and other clues will be grouped into three main categories.

The Lost Dutchman Gold Mine Clues are as follows:

  • 1.  Written documentation, including books, historical documentation–both Jesuit and Spanish records (diaries, journals and secretarial expedition logs).
  • 2.  Maps. Some of these are very important; for now, there are at least six that are extremely relevant.
  • 3.  The Peralta Stones and their importance will be one of the biggest shockers.

 

What I would like to do now is share some of the clues that are present at our land–site; this has never been done. First, I will list them, and then I will show some images from our site. Some of our high-tech images are proprietary and cannot be shown at this time, others are exclusive to our book and others, again for security reasons, cannot be shown at this time. I am going to start with written and recorded clues from second and third-hand recorded sources.

Arcana Exploration is the first
and only group to match Clues to the site

Everything below matches what we have found on the ground, and most importantly, it is all in one generalized location.

The Clues:  If the glove fits …

Jacob Waltz said:
1.    If you climb some distance above my mine you can see to the south a sharp peak (Weavers Needle).  This is true, but there is something most people do not realize about this clue! Yes!

2.    Waltz said that from up above my mine you cannot climb straight down, that you have to go a little way along the top of the mountain, then climb down and then backtrack toward the mine and climb back up to get back to the mine. This again is correct, but you have to see the place to understand what he meant. Yes!

3.   He said the mine lies in a north trending canyon that is shaded most of the day. True!

4.   From the mine you can see four peaks, but it looks like one peak. True!

5.   Waltz said that when he traveled there, he camped the night below the fort in a stand of Cottonwoods. Yes!  This makes sense, but there is also a time line here.

6.   The next day he crossed at the gravel bar and then he traveled to first water and then on to second water. Yes!

7.    Waltz said … Then I went to the spring and followed the old Indian Trail up to the mine. Yes! There is a spring and an old trail.

8.   He continued by saying that just below the mine is a tunnel the Mexicans dug, trying to come at the mine from below. Waltz said he built a rock wall in the opening to hide it. Yes!

9.   Waltz said he camped up above where the Mexicans camped on the Horse’s Saddle. Yes! He also said he hid his tools there when he left. It would be a safe place if you are alone—you have the high ground.

10.   Waltz said his mine-opening faces toward the northwest and late in the day the sun shines in the opening into the mine and on gold. Yes! We took a compass reading, and when looking directly out of the mine opening, it reads 220 degrees, and late in the day the sun does shine into the mine.

11.   Waltz said the Mexicans dug another tunnel from down below the mine trying to come in farther down into the vein because the pit mine was getting too hard to mine. He said that he too tried to dig a mine just above them, but as the Mexicans had said, the rock in this section was too hard, so he gave up as well. He also said his shaft and the Mexican’s shaft were very close together, but when you stood at either shaft you cannot see the other shaft. – Yes!  This is true and makes sense when you see them.

12.   He said you can be twenty feet from my mine and you will not have any idea where it is. True!  It is in a place that is hard to find. Even though we were on site, it took us until our third trip to locate the entrance.

13.   He said before his partner was killed, they stayed in a cave above and across from the mine either 200 feet or 200 yards. (Actually, I believe he most likely said we stayed in a cave that looked down on the mine.) I believe other people who most likely were there said 200 feet or 200 yards? Nevertheless, it is there. Yes!  Actually, it is probably about 80 to 100 yards. We need to bring a golf range finder on our fifth trip, to record distances. Our Trek watches will not measure “as the crow flies”. I am not sure of the original source, but it has been said that below the cave is a water tank. Yes!  There is a slow running spring that feeds into a hard rock pocket pool. In the desert these are called water tanks. You can see it from the cave, along with the mine. You cannot see the tank from the mine. The first time we saw the tank was with one of our drones.*  The cave Waltz and his partner most likely stayed in is above the mine and to the side. It looks down on the mine.

14.   Waltz said there is trick to his trail and no miner will ever find his mine. Yes!  There is a trick in the directions on how to get there. Yes!

15.   Waltz said that at the head of a north-trending canyon you will find the ruins of an ancient Spanish house that sits hidden on a ledge, and that the climb up to it is so steep that you will not see it until you scale up onto the ledge that it sits on, as its stone walls lay before you. He said if you find this house at the head of a steep north-trending canyon you are not far from the mine. Yes! We have some great video of this canyon in 4k with the drone, but it is proprietary to our book and for now we cannot share it. Our guys made two attempts to get up to the house but were stymied. Hence the drone.  The stone house exists—amazing.

16.   He said he had to slide in through a small opening, and that he chiseled it a bit so he could get in and out of the mine. Yes!  And, there are some chisel marks. Yes!

*After our third trip we learned that you can no longer fly drones in the Superstition Mountains; the Tonto National Forest does not allow it. Luckily for us, we no longer have to fly them; we already have what we need and knowingly follow all rules and regulations and do our very best to do things by the book. We do only what is permitted which includes not mining for gold. You are permitted to pick up small quantities of loose pieces of quartz matrix that contains gold.

Arcana: Dedicated, Competent, Driven

After our second expedition in the spring of 2016, the pieces of the puzzle was starting to come together, we were matching clues to the land – site. Most of our time on this trip was spent exploring around the mine site. Our team did make two attempts to reach the stone house at the head of the north trending canyon, but they were repelled.

Late one night

We had the correct location, we had the mine site, and if the legend was correct there had to be a stone house at the head of the north trending canyon. I knew where it was supposed to be. I had been looking for months, I could not find it.  It had to be up there. If there was no stone house … then, dammit it, it had to be … but if I couldn’t find. I knew where it had to be.

Then late one night (2am) sitting at my desk alone in a darkened office there it was. I am usually not an emotional person. It was best I was alone.

On our next trip in October of 2016 we got one of the drones up the canyon and have some great 4k images, but they are proprietary for now and will be used in our book.

Watch for new clues.

Comments (43)

  1. Dwight

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    I’m sorry to burst your bubble there buddy but the Dutchman has already been found 10 years ago. The very reason I haven’t said anything is because of what it would do to the Superstition Mountains themselves. Give this lots of thought before you open your mouth about where the mine is at. Fences, 24-hour guard, and an onslaught of people wanting to get rich quick. This is one thing the government does not want to have to deal with.

    • Reply

      Back at you buddy boy- So you think from what we have posted that like you we have also found the LDGM, and you want to protect it from the folks. I can understand that. Most people tell us we should mine and keep quite, and protect it from the tourist who are not worthy. So if you have found it share something with me without giving away the location. Something that would make sense to only you and I because we have been to the site.

    • Gary Herndon

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      The LDM has been found over the years by 170 different people and in 170 different locations throughout the Superstition Mountain Wilderness. Note, you are in that group of Finders but you haven’t found the LDM.

      I have been studying the LDM since I graduated from High School in 1982. My first 35 years of researching I trashed in August 2017 because I was following everyone else in finding nothing. I restarted my research in the latter part of August 2017 and kept to only what Jacob Waltz mentioned as clues. Note, the 300 or so clues that Everyone says are part of the LDM clues well thats Hogwash. Start in Jacob Waltz mind not everyone else’s. Forget about what every yahoo has said, get down to basic’s. Not All Clues are about what Jacob Waltz said.

      After 3 months of new research, I located the Jacob Waltz’s trail, where it started and where it ended. It took many turns to throw off people that might try to follow him to his mine. Everytime I found positive information in the office I always made a trip out to Arizona. I have literally made more trips than I had money for but I always got positive proof of what I was researching. I spend 2 months researching known and not so known maps of the ares corresponding with Google Earth. I cannot give you all or most of my information because its best not to trust anyone on this, I might lose everything I’ve worked so hard for.
      I have located the North Trending Canyon, a canyon in itself that has numerous carved walls, the Witch Priest being one of those as well as the Latin Heart laid out in the canyon floor. With the Knife or Sword beside it. And Jacob Waltz cache just feet from both. I’ve walked to the entrance of the mine turned around to see the 3 faces carved into the wall 200 yards away. The Priest carved into the canyon floor in full robes holding a cross in front of a mine entrance, the only other one like it was said to be pointing the way to the Guadeloupe Mines but was destroyed by the Priest’s themselves. “The Head of the Canyon”, said by Jacob Waltz, which in fact is a large rock carved exactly like a man’s head in front of the cave.
      Question gentlemen … Have you found the Elephant head carved out of solid rock marking the entrance to the canyon, where Jacob says you have to climb up into the canyon?? Well, if you did then you would know that Jacob Waltz used a tunnel to climb inside of that took him into the canyon, not his canyon but Jesuit Priests Canyon. The entrance is marked by an Elephant Head. In Mrs Corbin’s book, she mentioned Jacob Waltz saying he covered the tunnel entrance with a large rock inside the canyon so no one could get into the canyon easily.
      Forget anything pertaining to Peralta’s, because that’s part of the ongoing lie. It was never Peralta’s Mining the North Trending Canyon, it has been Jesuit Priest’s and there is way more Jesuit Treasure than just a few Holy Artifacts. The Latin Heart or The Heart of Jesus is what was carved on the Stone Maps. The Latin Heart is a Treasure Trove of individual vaults set in the shape of a Heart, which was made from the tailings of the 9 plus mines in the canyon. The trail on the Stone Maps leads from the cliff above the Carved Priest on the floor to the Heart about 2000 yards south.
      The Perfill Map was made at the most Southern end of the canyon, and items were added in to show the locations of things inside the Canyon, There are 2 Sombrero Mountains but it was difficult to draw what was being thought of then. The Perfill Map is quite real. The waterfall depicted on the map, Jacob Waltz only went into that canyon when he knew there would be water in it during certain seasons.
      I cannot and Will not give out locations or coordinates to the location of this canyon, because it it ever got out every yahoo in the country would be running wild and destroying everything inside that is well over 174-200 years old. I can tell you I found where Jacob Waltz mined out the top portion of the end of the vein above the mine so No One would find it. I can tell you its extremely hard to get into this canyon. I am legally Disabled but managed to get in without too much difficulty. I will also inform you about what Jacob Waltz stated “No Miner will ever find my Mine”. I am more researcher and a Prospector and I am no Miner, but I found not only his Mine but a Huge Treasure. I haven’t been back to the canyon since after November 29th, 2018 because everytime I go in I get a different illness everytime which has stumped my Doctors in both Phoenix and Charlotte, NC. The Curse on the Canyon is real but wasn’t made by Jacob Waltz.

      Sorry, but you haven’t found the Lost Dutchman Mine, I’ll stake my Life on it.

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        Gary congratulations on finding the mine, so if you have found the mine you of course you must know that there are things there that are over 750+ old. And I can tell from what you are describing we are not in the same place as you. . We show photos that will not give away the site, but that do correlate things to our site. So Gary share something with us that you have found that will not give away your site, as we do. Arcana is the only one who has ever done this. We are confident in what we have. Do not stake your life, life is precious and bad luck to bet on it. . I wish you would take that back considering your health. I mean that sincerely. I am not sure what legally disabled in your case means, but because of the earthquake, you need repelling gear to get up to the site, plus it takes more than one person, to get that done. What we have is not the same as what you are describing. Good Luck I hope you find out about your health, that is the most important thing.Thanks for your post. Jeff.. ,

      • Tom

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        The Dutchman was a fence for stollen gold from both the military private payrolls mining sources. The whole story was concocted to give cover to Jacob Waltz

      • Gavin

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        Enjoyed your post-Gary. I have been researching this since I was a young kid and are starting to now think of doing some legwork slowly and carefully. My family lives in the Carolina’s; if you care to send me an email would enjoy just talking to you. ggriffin@flprospects.com

  2. Reply

    Thanks Kal for the interest. We will be posting some information about the book in an upcoming post. But to answer your question we have a major trip planned for this fall. We will be on site much longer and with a much larger crew. The book is done to this point and I am reaching and writing most everyday. But the icing on the cake will be what we document on the fall trip and absolutely must be in the book. Talking to our editor Howard and the publisher they think some time early 2020 is realistic. Jeff.

  3. henry

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    i just love to read about it and see sites that are discovered i was stationed at the army post in 1964 there at sierra vista read the lost dutchman mine book when i was 15 years old in san antonio tx in jr. high got hooked then on the book heard a lot of stories there in az when i was there i just love to read and hear about it true or not does not matter to me henrypoff1945@yahoo.com

    • Roger

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      Its not in the superstitiions. I found the dagger, needle, and horsehead to be over five miles in size. Id send pics . i found everything, and i got millionaires involved

  4. Reply

    Henry your post is giving me chills, thank you so much for sharing. Henry I know that a lot of folks have thought they have found the mine, but….and I have to stop here for a minute and think what I want to say ….. Boy I had to sit here for a while let me just say I think you will be surprised, Promise me when the books comes out that you send it to me, I would like to write something personal in there for you, what you wrote here to me truly makes it special I want to make sure the guys see what you wrote. Sincerely Jeff.

  5. Reply

    We just need to see the raw ore to be real believers , I started hunting in the Sups back in the late 1970s with some of the locals!! One good pic would make it so Scotty🧐😏🤨

  6. Charles

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    Well since the intervention of Google Earth and using the pony for your map you can almost pinpoint it within 500 feet

  7. Reply

    You may be close to the mine as many floks hike right past it. Consider: if you find the mine do not make public it’s location. The rich will merely bribe the government and the entire superstition mountains will be ruined. Research the Resolution Mining Co near Miami Az and you’ll see how it will happen. Senator McCain of AZ had the rules changed for Resolution so they could mine in restricted areas. All it took was “campaign donation (bribe)” and there it went. If you do find the mine We’ll know. It’s best for hikers and businesses that the mine not be disturbed and be left well enough alone. The Old Seers.

  8. Roger

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    Someone want real proof, email me rogerrantz@Yahoo.com. all the monuments weavers needle, bullpass, dagger, horse head, are five miles in size. And i have proof from google maps

  9. gollum

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    I have closely researched this story for many years. I have researched many aspects of the story in archives, others in the mountains, and some around campfires after a few shots of Tequila or Fireball (you know who you are)! LOL I’m not going to tell you that you haven’t found the LDM. History is replete with other people that have looked but not found the LDM. I’m not going to tell you that I have found it (whether I have or have not). I wouldn’t try selling a book without a LOT of proofs of your find. Otherwise, nobody but a few nutjobs will pay a penny. You don’t have to give away any locations, or show pictures that might give too much info. You only have to submit ore from the two gold sources Waltz described that were in his mine. We know where there are several samples of the actual rich ore from the candlebox under Waltz’ Death Bed at Julia Thomas’ Place………..and Julia was not at his side when he died. She was out getting a doctor. That is when Dick Holmes got the ore from the candlebox. If you produce the ore samples, we can examine the crystalline structure of the quartz. The first test for authentic LDM Ore. If that passes, then we can XRF Test it. That will give the exact mineral content of the tested ore. There are certain things to look for in the mineralization and the matrix. Even if it passes all of that, it is not 100% that it is LDM Ore. Not 100%, but it will be enough to be taken more seriously than the multitudes of others that appear online claiming to have found the LDM. We get at least three or four every year. Some nuttier than others. Best of luck. Mike

    • Reply

      Hey Mike, you are correct, Julia was not there, when he actually passed away, some say he was at her the house, or place behind the ice cream parlor, his adobe some say it was at his adobe house. I am sure it would have made sense, that he was at her place. I was thinking she was his caretaking during his last six months, until the end, I should have been more specific, she was there for him, just not at the last minutes of his life.
      Mike, you are exactly correct we need a sample of the Quartz matrix, that matches Waitz’s known examples. We need to find some loose, we cannot chisel any, I am sure we will find some loose samples. As far as the book, it is concerned, it will be different than, the others I have seen it will as much, about our journey, and how our story ends and it will truthful no matter how it ends. Mike do we have the Dutchman mine, I believe, we really do, because of the overall entities we have, but we are not done gathering proof. When we are done, I will be shocked if we are wrong, but will be honest about everything. Here is the thing Mike I have seen everything found and presented before, compared to what we have( and we are not done) and it not close. So we will see, how it ends. I know your posts on Treasurenet and I know you know your stuff, Thank You for thoughts and good luck wishes. Jeff.

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      Thanks Mike you have been at it a long time, I read your post on Treasure Net you know your stuff, and have been out where the rubber meets the road, you are a true Dutch Hunter and I have always respected your input on TN, Thank you for responding here. You are exactly correct, about Julia being gone the moment he died, I guess I was thinking of new people to the Dutchman Story, and I was think figuratively, that she was him ( in spirit until the end). I need to be more careful because details are important, especially, when it comes to the LDM saga. I believe her place was either attached to or behind her ice cream parlor, I have read different versions of that. On our next trip our goal is to reach one area we have not, as yet been able to penetrate.. I believe he mined at least two sites in the general area. My guess from what we have seen so far is the make- up of the gold will be different. Some I am glad you said two different samples. That is our goal not to mine, but hopefully to get some loose samples that can be tested . Our guys have been training this summer with skilled climbers, two of which will accompany us on our next trip. Hopefully we have a mild winter. Thank you Jeff.

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        Mike one other thought, our story is just as much about our teams journey over the last 4-5 years as it is about finding the LDM.. In the book I am trying to let people who are not LDM junkies like us, or have never heard of the LDM, understand from our point of view, as improbable as it may be, that five regular guys from Ohio, would be doing what we are doing much less finding something. Today people want to travel vicariously, hence, Gold Rush and all these reality shows. I am somewhat doing that with our book. Do I think we have the LDM,,I do. Could I be wrong of course anything is possible . But knowing what you know, I think Mike, you would be taken aback if you could see what we have so far. But our tale will be told honestly, and if we are wrong, that will be shared completely, it would be part of the story. But like Ben Crenshaw said in the 1999 Ryder Cup matches live on TV after Saturday’s, matches’. ,” I am a big believer in fate, and I feel good about this…….). and with one day to go (Sunday’s single’s matches). They were all but toast and went on to pull -off a huge upset. They won almost every match on Sunday. the I also am a big believer in fate, and I have good feeling. Thanks Jeff.

  10. Robert Kesselring

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    I spoke with Greg Davis about asking the owner of the matchbox for a one time XRF scan, and perhaps also the one piece of ore said to be from the mine. Apparently this was not possible at the time.
    If we are discussing te same location, I can tell you where the inscription is.

    Robert Kesselring

  11. Reply

    Hi guys, if you have found the true mine well done, my only message is to stay safe as a lot of people have died trying to fine it or getting to places they think it is and as they say you can’t take it with you. I’ll buy your book as I’m in Australia and have been following searchers over the net for years so your book will be enough proof for me thanks very interesting read and well explained how you got to where you are now.
    So safe travels on your next trip
    Regards Matthew

  12. Reply

    Thank you Matthew for the kind words and safe wishes. I think you will enjoy the book. It tells the story of how five regular guys, all good friends, but not professional treasure hunters, against all odds go on an amazing journey of discovery together. I think it will interesting and also fun read. Thank you. Jeff. We are going this Winter, so the ending has not yet been written. Jeff.

  13. Tyler Gilman

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    Quick question: If the mine faces Northwest and you are standing in the mine entrance looking out how does a compass read 220? Wouldn’t that be facing Southwest?

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      Tyler Tha

      Tyler you are absolutely correct, I went back and looked at the notes of that day, and infarct it read 320 not 220, in the book I will show a reading from that spot and it is important. We will have to correct that. I am highly dyslexic and actually see backwards (in my brains eye), I am always getting phone numbers wrong when I try to dial even though I have it in front of me. For sure I will show that reading so there is no skepticism. Thanks Jeff

  14. Chip

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    Recent posts have coincided nicely with the Travel Channel show Ghost Adventures. The episode on the LDM which aired on November 15th and possibly other dates and times, adds a little color to other LDM asides. I will watch for other posts and chatter about the mine and wish good luck and safe prospecting to all who venture forth.

  15. Wayne Tuttle

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    1) the XRF has been done on the matchbox. The most recent was done this past spring.

    2) I’ve seen the drawings and preliminary sketches that Tumlinson made for creating the stone maps. I’ve also seen the other maps he made forgeries of such as the Julia Thomas map and the profile map

    3) the map Frank Fish had was one of two maps he located in Mexico through the Peralta family. Adolph Ruth likely had the Gonzalez family copies of those two maps. Other than the Hank Dandrea map it is one of the only original surviving maps out there that can be tested.

    The XRF results should be on “Unexplained and Unexplored” tomorrow night Sunday November 17th on Science channel. The show features Bob Schoose, Clay Worst and Others.

    The film documenting Kesselrings search should be out January 2020

    • Wayne

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      Mr. Tuttle

      I’d sure like to known what the results came up with. Let me guess Copper/Gold
      Nickel/Gold and the only parts of natural Gold/Quarts are the inlays. Everything else
      is jewelry grade gold.

      Wayne

  16. Jon Jensen

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    I might have possibly found something of interest? I have ran a few buckets of material to confirm if there is a parent gold source up a particular canyon I have explored. To my surprise and delight I did pan out a few flakes and some fines from that material. I would like to go back and to a bit more investigating, however this location is on national forest land and I am told no prospecting is allowed unless one has the permits. But the gold find is intriguing for me nonetheless. I hope to return for a more thorough investigation. Please don’t ask my location. I would only reveal it to someone I could trust and right now that is no one. But I might to Clay Worst if I were to ever have the chance.

  17. Reply

    This is really exciting. So many cable channel shows are about finding this mine. I’ve only been following it over the last few years and I truly hope you have found the exact mine that Waltz was talking about. I’m thinking that maybe you guys are out there now? Can’t wait to hear more about this trip.

  18. DALLAS

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    The mine has never been found. You are just stringing us along. Where is your book? If anybody ever did find the mine they would be quietly getting rich and wouldn’t ever dream of stringing honest people along like this. The fact you have this site is proof to me that you are simply mining for book sales.

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      Hey Dallas, some good points of view. The book will not come out until we are through, with our research. in the canyon. It is much more difficult than anyone can imagen, the next post will talk about that issue. And you are incorrect that if anyone found the mine they would be quietly be getting rich, it is not that simple. Actually when we started that is what we thought I and found out there are a lot of issues. I have come to the conclusion that, that telling our story and informing the Park-service just before the book does come out, so they can protect it for a lot of reasons, makes the best sense. And heck yea we want book sales, that is the best way to market and possibly get additional revenue. We have spent a lot of time and money. The bottom line is if we do have the mine, our story will be one that will be of interest or it will not. We know what we have, and it is more that just a piece of ground. I have been able to piece together much of the overreaching story. And no one is stringing honest people along.. The book is still being added too, we were back there in 2019, and I have not yet shared that trip, that is for a latter date.

  19. Paul

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    The gold belongs to the indians,rightfully they been protecting it for ever.Jacob Waltz must of been a very nice man,with a pure heart, walking the right road for the indians to let him take what gold he needed.most men would try to get all the gold,and probally would not live long after that…

  20. R Wenner

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    All of you have enjoyed the romance of the search, but a Mining Engineer has found it–he’s giving a presentation on the Feb. 24th 2020 at a Mining Engineers Convention in Phoenix, AZ.. He has a website on how over 15 years he worked out the historical references plus the geology. It’s all here: https://mollymarieprospect.com

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    Jeff, with regards to my suspected site (suspecting it to be the same as yours), I feel impelled to ask if your expeditions have seen NFS people around the mine? If so did you get any indication they might be removing traces of human activity to revert the area to a more natural wilderness state? Is there any more info about your book? Bryan

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    It’s my understanding that the LDM was located a few years back, or I should say rediscovered. Your description sounds in line with others. As you’re aware, the only way to prove it’s the LDM is to compare it with existing ore, which even then isn’t a %100 percent verification. Though, in my opinion, the site fits the clues nicely. From what I’ve been told, someone was working the mine around the mid 90’s in secrecy, and also dug up the caches. There may still be gold to be found, but not likely enough to get rich on. I look forward to reading your book and following your research!

  23. Julie KiehneLamkin

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    Hello Jeff, I too am from Ohio and an heir of Jacob Walz. I think it is fun to explore the Superstition Wilderness and can be quite challenging. The key is samples which need to match the quartz matrix which he had under his bed. I must say, more people have found his mine over the years than Carter has pills! And there are so many misinformed stories about him, his mine, his history, etc. based on rumour and hearsay upon hearsay. My oh my! I thank you for helping keep my uncles’ spirit alive. Perhaps we can meet sometime. I too an am explorer, member of prospecting clubs and am very connected to the community. Regards, Julie

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    I had to give up reading the replies because they change with every different question to answer. you haven’t even got near to the mine or you would have kept your mouths hut until you had mined some of it at least. So it goes “we found it but went home” When we find it again we wont mine it we just want loose bits we can find on the floor” O wait yes i got the compass readings wrong let me just check with google as to where north, south, east, west are then i can give you the correct compass for looking in the direction that matches the clues stated by the Dutchman. Give me a break lol.

  25. Frank c

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    I have been reading up and watching everyone’s YouTube videos. It’s all very intriguing. I’d love to go on an expedition to search around and try to solve the mystery and take in the beauty of this creation. Even though you can’t have the gold it still would be great to be recognized as the one solving this. Gold makes people do crazy stuff, like shooting at people ect. Me personally, I don’t think Jacob had his own mine, he did state no one will ever find my mine. That may be because he didn’t have one. Maybe he stole it from other miners or was given it for political reasons or possibly worked/paid for it. Rumor has it that he killed like 30 people. Alot of people have been finding all these mines and no one has found any large high grade ore deposits so why would his mine be any different. A green horn just goes out there and finds the best mine. While the mexican miners not after years of mining the area. To me it just sounds to good to be true. Anyways everyone be safe and treat other hunters with respect and thanks for sharing all your experiences and knowledge and great stories.

  26. MICHAEL D MASSEY

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    How do you not get discovered with a large search party while returning to LDGM?

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